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Sunday, February 18, 2018

Labour's conundrum

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/17/labour-dreaming-uk-wants-socialism-privatisation

I suspect the Guardian hates Corbyn and wants Guardian-type socialism instead - the kind where you do well out of doing good, and get to condescend to the lower orders.

The trouble with being the friend of the poor is that you need them to be poor always so you can be their well-paid friend forever.


This is why the way out for the poorly paid and unemployed could come from the sort-of Right rather than the Left. A real Labour Party would seek so to improve the lot of the workers that in time, they wouldn't need the Party. What are the chances of that happening?

In the USA a maverick like Trump is hated not only by the Left (Michael Moore seems to be another one doing well for himself by noisily championing the poor without actually giving them jobs) but by the Right because he is interfering with the extractive setup that has seen a small minority hoovering up the wealth gains of the last 40 years. If he succeeds then we should all forgive his crassness and history of buccaneering business deals.

Is there a British Trump among us?

8 comments:

Paddington said...

On what basis is President Trump a maverick? Tax cuts for big companies and the rich, proposed cuts in everything except the military, which is getting even more than the Joint Chiefs requested.

Sackerson said...

Trying to get jobs back into the USA, stemming illegal migration as numerous Presidents before him promised to do and didn't, and not provoking war with Russia as that military-industrial-complex glove-puppet HRC was going to do.

The system is so stacked against the President that it's a surprise that he can achieve anything. As in the UK, the US the body politic has become effectively a conspiracy against the people. As long as both sides hate Trump I'll take it as a sign that he's trying to do the right thing in some important respects, even if not all.

The Arthurian said...


Trump was a maverick during the campaign, definitely. And so very funny -- almost as funny as the Democrats' inability to appreciate his sense of humor.

"... the way out for the poorly paid and unemployed could come from the sort-of Right rather than the Left."

Kinda, yeah. Republicans use sound economic thought to achieve their goals, but their goals benefit themselves rather than society. Democrats have better objectives, but have never once had a sound economic thought.

"The trouble with being the friend of the poor..."

Yeah.

Paddington said...

But he didn't try to get jobs back to the US. In fact, he is still importing cheap labour for his properties.

As for Carrier and similar places, those jobs were shipped to Mexico shortly after the election. The ones supposedly bringing jobs here were decided two or more years ago.

Illegal immigration has been on the decline for a decade or more, as Mexico's economy has improved.

James Higham said...

"The trouble with being the friend of the poor is that you need them to be poor always so you can be their well-paid friend forever."

In one.

Paddington said...

The latest in White House policies:

1. Reducing funding for the Office of Consumer Protection, which went after crooked banks and companies, to re-direct it as protecting companies.
2. Trying to change rules to allow employers to take all tips, for whatever purposes that they choose.

Does this sound like the friend of the American public?

Sackerson said...

P: I guess not. But does he look likely to help revive the American economy?

Btw if employers take all tips, won't they have to start paying proper wages esp. in catering?

Paddington said...

The US economy will be in great trouble. As predicted, this morning's business news is that most of the business tax cut is going towards stock buybacks.

Yes, they will have to pay minimum for servers, which doesn't mean very much.