Monday, October 12, 2015

More things in heaven and earth, Horatio

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

- Hamlet (1.5.167-8)

In the DM today, an account of how the SAS used the occult after WWII to find the victims and perpetrators of war crimes:

"On one occasion they even called upon the spirit world, setting up a Ouija board on a table in Villa Degler’s candle-lit drawing room. Numbered playing cards were laid out, and the letters of the alphabet. An upturned glass was placed in the middle.
"Suddenly the glass spelt out a name, ‘F-o-r-d-h-a-m’, followed by ‘I was killed at Cirey’ - a village in the Vosges. The ‘message’ revealed that he was an Allied airman whose bomber had crashed. He and another crew member were captured and made to dig their own graves before being shot.
"The next morning, the team sped off to Cirey, where locals took them to an unmarked grave. When they dug, they turned up two bodies.
"The Ouija board also identified the German responsible for the shootings. The team ran him through a registry of suspected war criminals and discovered a man by that name had been in the Gestapo. He was arrested."
When I was a schoolboy, some friends experimented with Ouija. They came back terrified. You may be as rational as you like; I'm not messing with it.

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James Higham said...

Dangerous things to mess with.

Paddington said...


Sackerson said...

P: possibly, though I'm even more skeptical than most, which is why I'm not sure yes or no. Even the potential purely psychological effects could be dangerous, many of us need to keep our demons well chained.

Paddington said...

As much as people want to believe lots of things, the phenomena evaporate under proper controls. In the case of the Ouija board, it has been extensively studied, and found to be unconscious control.

CherryPie said...

There 'are' more things in Heaven and Earth than we understand.

Personal experiences can lead us to believe there 'is' something more. Research on the subject can lead to an understanding of how these things work.

I agree with James on this issue, people should not mess with trying to contact the spirit world via mediums and playing with Ouija. It is dangerous.

Ricky said...

Yes, possibly dangerous but perhaps not due to the supernatural. There was a chap my father-in law knew and he used to drink gin and tonic at the pub. Sometimes his friends, when it was his round, gave him just tonic water. At the end of the night he would exhibit symptoms of intoxication. His mind had tricked his body.
If someone believes in demons and that there is danger of demonic attack if using a Ouija board, maybe their own mind delivers the symptoms as a form of self-induced psychosis.